(UPDATE) Haley: No Jobless Benefits for Drug Users
Governor will seek drug screens as a requirement for unemployment assistance
(Update: Haley's comment that half of Savannah River Site job applicants tested positive for drugs is untrue, according to this followup story from The Huffington Post).
Gov. Nikki Haley said Thursday she wants to institute drug testing for people who apply for state unemployment benefits.
"I so want drug testing," Haley told a receptive, hometown gathering of Rotarians at a breakfast reception held at the Country Club of Lexington. "It's something I've been wanting since the first day I walked into office."
However, Haley stopped short of proposing any such testing for those who receive welfare benefits, including those on food stamps.
Florida Gov. Rick Scott recently signed into law a measure that requires welfare recipients to pass annual drug screens. However, early indications are that the measure is unlikely to save that cash-strapped state any money, and is highly vulnerable to costly lawsuits on constitutional grounds, analyses show.
Haley's call for drug-testing is not entirely new. She made national headlines last year when she called for mandatory testing while running for governor.
But now her office is actively investigating the idea and will push to implement it if it's possible, she said.
"We have to pull the numbers," she told reporters after her speech. "We have to make sure this works. We have to see what the return is on it. And, we have to see federally and legally if we can do it."
If drug testing is ultimately instituted, it would be another step in Haley's efforts to reform the state's unemployment system. Faced with an unemployment insurance debt load of nearly $1 billion, South Carolina has stopped accepting federal unemployment insurance loans, no longer allows benefits to seasonal workers, and has cut the duration of unemployment benefits from 26 to 20 weeks.
With a drug testing measure, Haley said, the state could save further money and ultimately lighten the unemployment-tax load on businesses, as well as create more accountability among beneficiaries and provide more incentive to seek work.
The Legislature already is considering a drug-testing measure that would cut off benefits if an applicant failed a potential employer's drug screening test.
Haley said she was told that half the people who applied this year for hundreds of positions at the Savannah River Site (SRS) near Aiken tested positive for drugs.
While Lexington Rotarians seemed to have no problem with Haley's idea, advocates for the poor and unemployed said they consider it foolish and misdirected.
"That is a terrible use of resources when we should be putting any of our state resources into helping people who have been devastated because of the lack of jobs," Sue Berkowitz, executive director of the advocacy group South Carolina Appleseed Legal Justice Center, told the Associated Press. "The average South Carolinian should be wondering what South Carolina leaders are thinking about us as people."
In return for more stringent requirements for assistance, Haley said the state must also do its part by focusing on job training. Faced with record high unemployment, Haley said enhanced workforce training is the key to reversing the state's jobless rate, which is among the highest in the country.
Of those SRS applicants who had clean drug screens, Haley noted in her speech, "half of them could not even read or write well enough" to get jobs at the nuclear facility.
"That's the problem we face in South Carolina," she said. "We don't have an unemployment problem. We have an education and poverty problem."
"So what you're going to see us doing in this next year is a full-force training program," she promised. "We are going to do everything we need to get these people back to work. Everything we need to get them trained."
Haley said she would push to start a program by next year that will provide incentives for people seeking unemployment benefits to upgrade their skills. Details are still being worked out on the costs and how the incentives would work, she said.
"I'm watching all my colleagues in other states struggle, " she said. "I'm not going to be like that. We're not going to be like Washington. We are going to create a business plan. We're going to know what we want South Carolina to look like … years from now.
"The unemployment reform we did last year is just the first step," she said.
The state will continue to look at ways to reduce benefits and force aid recipients into training, she said, "because we've got to make it more comfortable to get out and work than it is to sit at home."
Haley told the crowd she was proud of the fact that 11,491 new jobs have been announced since she came into office in January, and that the state has scored $1.7 billion in new investments. And a lot of those new jobs "are not just in Charleston, Columbia and Greenville," she said, but in more rural areas of the state hit hardest by joblessness.
However, jobs -- or the lack of them -- remain a particular problem in South Carolina, which has a 10.9 percent unemployment rate. The state ties Michigan for the third-highest rate in the nation, with only Nevada and California faring worse.
"I'm killing myself to bring jobs to this state," Haley said. However,the root problems behind the state's rampant joblessness are due to a confluence of factors rarely -- if ever -- seen.
"You have college students who have now entered the workforce that need jobs and don't have them. We have people who have been let go in their mid-50s who suddenly are getting back into the work force and having to figure out what they're going to do because they can't work in that same industry," Haley said.
"And more than anything, we also have people who thought they had retired — thought that they had enough money to live off of — and no longer have it," she added. "So they are now having to get back into the work force."
But Lexington County, she said, is one of the state's bright spots. While unemployment in the county stood at 8.6 percent in July, it still has the lowest jobless rate among the state's 46 counties.
"Your biggest issue here is [handling] growth," she said. "What a great problem to have."
Mimi
4:31 am on Friday, September 9, 2011
Same radical nonsense. How much will that cost the state? What probable cause do you have to do drug tests? Which drugs will you be testing for?? Nimrata you are already more unpopular than Ricky Scott are you shooting for the worst Governor in the country?? How about cracking down on those that willfully sell drugs. How about cracking down on the Doctors who hand them out like candy?? This is unconstitutional. PATHETIC
Jim Poston
9:56 am on Friday, September 9, 2011
It wouldn't cost the state anything Mimi because you (the person applying) would have to foot the bill. I totally agree with the drug testing, Most employers drug test now anyway so how can anyone expect to get a job if they're partaking in any illegal drugs. But I also think the state needs to take it a step further. They need to drug test all welfare and food stamp recipients under the age of 65 also!!! Now, this is an area that I'm sure South Carolina would see a lot of improvement and savings if and when this occurs. It's only a matter of time until this happens.
Rick
1:35 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
Jim: Let's also add in all officers, managers, and supervisors of corporations that receive special tax breaks! If any are found to use drugs, they pay full price! Wouldn't that be great!
Mimi
3:34 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
So now Jim you are forcing a poor person to buy a product that they are not interested in. Funny how you can slame the new healthcare law yet find excuses for Nimrata's madness.
charles griggs
6:45 am on Saturday, September 10, 2011
How about making the people receiving governmental aid work 40 hours a week. They can pick up trash beside SC highways. This would help make SC look better and help aid receiving people find jobs.
Nick Foltz
10:00 pm on Thursday, November 24, 2011
Mimi you have no clue how many people abuse these state benefits.First off who ever would be receiving these benefits should have to pay for these drug screen out of their free money they are already getting. Second even if the tax payers had to pay for each drug screen the benefits would be cut in half right on the spot because these people take there free money and spend it on drugs and would fail. And third of all cracking down on the people who sell drugs will not stop people from selling drugs. You cant stop people from sellings ever. Ive seen so many people get benefits for dissablity and they are not disabled and then go spend their money on drugs and then they will get a under the table job and get paid in cash then further more they will tell all there friends exactly what they have to do and say to get dissability. PATHETIC
Mimi
4:32 am on Friday, September 9, 2011
I think we should test all legistrators for drugs and alcohol comsuption. I think we should have Governors mentally tested.
Jim Poston
3:48 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
Mimi, first of all it wasn't me that slammed the new healthcare laws, I don't know enough about them to do that... Secondly, sometimes you have to spend money to make money or in this instance, spend a little to get something for free.. The laws are already changing to make this happen. Don't move to Florida! Just recently in the last few months they passed a law that lowered the unemployment benefits to 12 weeks MAXIMUM and drug testing for all welfare/food stamp recipients..
luckyfreeman
3:18 pm on Saturday, September 10, 2011
But he recievers of the checks should still have to preform some community service such as repainting city property, mowing laws, cleaning parks or rubbish removal..something maybe even only 10 hours a week but something....washing the firetrucks, ambulances....Going to the schools and doing work there or nursing homes veterans hospitals drivers for the elderly or disabled. there is just a lot of things that would help society and help save the taxpayers money...
Li
5:13 am on Friday, September 9, 2011
Test all people on gov dole including haley president etc. What about drug co.s and doctors they are the drug pushers. Dont let let us make up our own minds we are stupid enough you should do it for us.
Terri Yvette Revis
7:29 am on Friday, September 9, 2011
I belive it would save the state money. How can you really be looking for a job if you can't pass a drug test? I have to take a drug test when my company wants me to take one. If I fail it I don't get a pay check! Why should they? Get paid to get high? I think they should go after those on warefare to. Easy! Stay straight or no check!
Mimi
8:00 am on Friday, September 9, 2011
And who do you think is paying for these tests??? Why should people that aren't on drug be subjected to tests??? Maybe Nimrata wants to send more money to the drug testing company owned by her dear friend Ricky Scott in Florida.
Mimi
8:04 am on Friday, September 9, 2011
We have created so many jobs thats why our unemployment went from 9% to 10.1% because we added jobs. In addition any jobs that were created by legistration PRIOR to Nimrata have been erased after her and the unemployment has increased. How do you try to make that a possitive??? This woman really has an additional problem.
Mimi
8:06 am on Friday, September 9, 2011
Why don't we test everyone that gets federal funding. We should just test the entire State because I know they must be on drugs to have ever cast a vote for Nimrata in the first place. Stoooooopid
Jim
10:57 am on Friday, September 9, 2011
so she "heard" that half the people who applied to SRS tested positive. Sounds pretty dubious, but that aside, were any of these people receiving unemployment benefits. What Haley is purposely misleading voters on is that being unemployed does not mean you get unemployment benefits. You have to have been laid off (not fired) from a job. Unemployment benefits are for people who, through no fault of their own (company goes out of business, downsizes, etc) lost their job. They're not for every tom, dick, and harry who is jobless. People with drug problems are the kind of folks who get fired before they get laid off. This is just an expensive political gimmick for Haley to look tough, but us taxpayers will be on the hook for the cost.
Jim Poston
12:56 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
You're wrong on one part of your statement Tom... If you're employer pays into the system (which all are obligated to do), any Tom, Dick, Harry or Jane is eligible to collect unemployment benefits. That being said, the benefit start date can be anywhere from immediate start (layoffs, down sizing, etc;) to a delay of 26 weeks.. But anyone is eligible, it all depends on how long someone wants to wait for benefits.
luckyfreeman
8:04 pm on Saturday, September 10, 2011
deduct the price from thier checks...
Heather
11:24 am on Friday, September 9, 2011
I give her kudos! I hope she does the same for the welfare recipients. They shouldn't receive benefits if they are just going to give it to their drug dealers.
Rick
1:37 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
No company should receive tax breaks if any of their employees are found to take drugs!
Mimi
3:10 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
I think she should test people like you Heather you might be one of those dealers selling it to the unemployed that have no money. I think all americans should be drug tested and their suppliers tracked down and shot. You people that try to find blame for this mess this country is in are pathetic. REPUBLICAN POLICIES IN THE LAST DECADE have created these problems. Nimrata being one of them doesn't want uninformed people to realize that otherwise you might not vote for her again.
luckyfreeman
2:48 pm on Saturday, September 10, 2011
I agree... However I also believe that all public servants should be mandatory...That means all areas of law enforcement, police, city workers, code enforcers, city prosecutors all people that are bankrupting the working property owning taxpayers...Along with all welfare recipients and people that recieve a government dissability check The only exemptions would be retired people that worked thier entire lives and paid into the system for at least 25 years...Unless injured in military service to our nation...
luckyfreeman
8:03 pm on Saturday, September 10, 2011
exactly
Crystal Sparrow
11:42 am on Friday, September 9, 2011
I agree with Mimi if this is a principled policy then everyone who is paid using public funds should be subject to it. This includes the legislature, the courts, and the executive branch (locally and nationally). If not it's just another salvo in the war against the bottom 50% earners of this country. I have longed for IQ and mental fitness tests being levied against elected and appointed officials.
Tim Lennon
12:11 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
Sure, test for drugs.
But test the airline pilots, the surgeons and the corporate lawyers. Druggies, all.
See where testing goes once these other jokers are included.
Jim Poston
12:32 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
Airline pilots DO get tested, both for alcohol and illegal AND prescription drugs Tim.. I can't speak for the surgeons and corporate lawyers but I would hope that both go through at least a pre-employment drug screen.
Rob Michael
1:37 pm on Saturday, September 10, 2011
Hey Tim I think you're so right on target test our airline pilots, surgeons, lawyers, and I'd even go so far as to saytest our elected officals especially after a christmas party, new years party and on such other occassions when they are partaking just as those they'd like to do all this testing for. But test them also randomly so that they would'nt have prior knowledge and get some one to do the testing who could not be intimidated or payed off. Because this system of ours (government) is going to hell in a hand basket fast and they want to penalize folks because they really can't get what they want hhhmmmmm??????? I've worked for state and local government so I know what goes on. " A VOICE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NO VOICE"
Yalonda
12:24 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
She's crazy.It hard enough out here to find employment.I know,I've been looking.Do you really feel it"s necessary to Test people who are homeless,laid-off,single parents and people with disabity like myself for unemployment wages and you couldn't test the polite who was flying the plane Aaliyah was in.Are you serious?Really!!! Governor you need your head examined.I gonna pray for you Governor.
Jim Poston
12:46 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
Jobs are out there Yalonda, it might not be what you wan,t but it ought to do till you find something better. And YES, I really do think they ought to test ANYONE who applies for any type of TAX PAYER funded programs. Don't go there with the disabled person thing. I was wounded 7 times while in the military, I have left over shrapnel still in me, I've have my back and spine operated on 3 times... But I still work 5 days a week... I've seen people collecting disability (which is part of the SSI program, not state maintained) that has sore backs, head aches, etc; Just lazy people. SO, if you're sitting at home, with no arms and legs thus being truly disabled, I apologize.. If this isn't you, get your ass out and get a job and quit whining.
Geneva Lawrence
4:17 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
Great post Jim. I agree with you completely. I've seen many disabled people whose problems are minor. Don't know what Doctor they got to sign them up, but half of them probably feel better than I do. I'm 67, and I could leave this house and be back with a minimum wage job within a couple of hours and that's exactly what I would do if I could not support myself.
Mimi
4:22 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
And Geneva with that medicare that I pay for and that social security that I pay for along with the fact you probably don't have any children to pay for, you could probably live off of minimum wage job. You might be accustomed to low wages. Someone drawing disability has nothing what so ever to do with unemployment. Do you understand the difference???
Geneva Lawrence
4:47 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
Mimi: I worked many years, sometimes 2 jobs at a time rearing 5 girls by myself, and have a college degree so I didn't work at low paying jobs, but I would if I needed to. I've had people tell me, why should I take that job, I can make more on unemployment. But that is not what this story is about. The Governor wants drug testing to be eligible for unemployment and I stand with her.
Christopher Todd
12:46 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
Why stop at drugs? While I know alcohol is legal I am sure that it costs the state (both public and private) a lot of money in lost productivity due to hangovers, sloppy work, etc. She needs to have the courage of her convictions and carry this all the way!
Tim Armstrong
12:53 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
Test for ALL drugs, including alcohol & tobacco (the most dangerous to health, and the most addictive). But they won't, they'll just test for weed, because it's trivial to detect. Same tests for Legislators and all staff, state contractors, everyone.
Jim Poston
1:06 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
They won't because they can't... These are LEGAL substances people. They can restrict when and where you can smoke your cigarette and drink your alcohol during working hours but not after that. Some professions can dictate when you have to stop drinking before going to work.. (Pilots, Truck Divers, etc;) But for your analogy Tim, I'll say this: I could careless if people are killing themselves by tobacco or alcohol, What I DO care about is that they're doing it while living off my hard earned tax money I have to give up!!!
Mimi
3:19 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
Yet you have no problem with your tax money going to build military in the middle east that become our enemy. Yet you have no problem giving oil, Pharmacutical, Health, NASCAR, Farmers etc. your money to line their pockets with. What makes a person focus on the poorest and our seniors and try to blame them for the misuse of their tax dollars?
Mimi
4:25 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
Can you read Geneva??? What are other posting referring too??? Why is it that my comments that are nothing but facts become rants in your view??? Please explain. I am and always have been for the protection of people (our seniors) such as you, what is you disagreement with my comments that you find offensive???
Geneva Lawrence
4:25 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
Mimi: Don't involve seniors, of which I am one, in your rantings. She didn't say a word about social security or medicare. However, if she ever does, I certainly wouldn't object to testing because I don't do drugs. I know far to many people younger than me on disability and food stamps who swap the food stamps for drugs. To low life to even use them for food for their children.
Mimi
4:30 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
My suggestion to you Geneva if you know people that are scamming the system it is your duty to report the crime. What does that have to do with unemployment again???
Geneva Lawrence
4:54 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
Mimi: I appreciate the fact that you are for the seniors. My disagreement is that you seem to be saying you disagree with drug testing for unemployment benefits, which is what the article is about, and then we all got off on this other tangent. Yes or no, should drug users receive unemployment benefits? Remember that if they do happen to find a job and are tested, they loose the job and go back to receiving benefits again.
Mimi
5:15 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
My disagreement Geneva is with testing innocent people for drugs weather it be for unemployment, food stamps, college kids. I find it absurd that people would be assumed quilty without any probable cause to have to prove their innocence EXTREMISM and against our constitution rights. I don't disagree that some people that are unemployeed might be using drugs, those people where probably using drugs before they were unemployeed. Furthermore the cost to the tax payers will certainly be alot higher than anyone scamming the system by using drugs. I think it is insanity and not a solution for a problem we have no proof even exist. I also find it offesive that the only thing our Governor can think to do to create jobs is to attack the very people suffering from the lack of legistration and regulation she supported and continues to support, that is the TRUE danger to all tax payers. PERIOD
Jonathan Allen
6:08 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
Geneva: drug dealers take food stamps now???? I'd love to know how that works.
Geneva Lawrence
6:30 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
Yes, Jonathan a lot of small dealers do take food stamps. After all they have to have groceries. Also, people buy food stamps at less than face value. And if people are selling their food stamps, they don't need them.
Tom Siebert
1:19 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
How quickly Nikki has swung out of control and turned into just another greedy, intolerant politician, one who spends tons of money on herself and her staff, staying in five-star European hotels, employing a PR flack who lies until he's caught, and delivers reports only when Freedom of Information is invoked and then the reports are heavily redacted. Now she's trying to pick on the poor, kick them while they're down, submit them to humiliating tests. Let's test our politicians for alcohol and drugs as well, let's make them take lie detector tests once a week. The biggest failures in our country are not the poor; they are unfortunate and put upon and Christ has commanded we help them. The biggest failures are our politicians, who are cowardly and greedy and have mastered only the dark arts of public relations and secrecy. Nikki, it turns out we hardly knew you and South Carolina is the worse for it. At least the last guy traveled coach and stayed in cheap hotels.
Tiger Curran
2:22 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
To Jim, you say you were in the military and you want drug testing. When joining the service did you not swear an other to defend the constitution of the United States. If so you are now promoting somthing that is unconstitional. No probable cause seaches. It is one thing for private companys to do this but it is another for a govermant to do so. I am glad to hear you don't care about anyone killing themselfs with tobacco or booze just as long as you don't have to pay for it. How compassionate of you. When these peole do die I hope they have private insurance or you will be paying for it through the nose with unpaid hostipal bills that the stae will have to pick up. I do thank you for your service and am truely sorry for your injuries. I served myself in the Marine corps and will always fight for the consitution of the United States. No unreasonable searches or seizures.
Tiger U.S.M.C.
Rob Michael
2:03 pm on Saturday, September 10, 2011
Tiger I agree with you totally. Semper Fi
Mimi
3:14 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
Is this not finding a person quilty of a crime before trial??? Isn't the constitution an assumtion that all are innocent until proven quilty? Is this not assuming all are quilty?? This is a pathetic attempt to brand people who are out of work and suffering the most as the problem. She is in over her head as governor and completely incompetent of her duties. Do we have recall legistration in South Carolina??
Mimi
3:22 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
Republicans thrive on creating boogiemen this is just another lame attempt do divide the country and fuel anger towards a made up problem for political posturing. They can only win elections if they create fear, the first step of oppression.
Mimi
3:37 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
Why don't we just test all our children that attend the government funded school private or public, heck why stop at just people that are unemployed they are the least able to buy drugs. STOOOOOOOPIDITY
Jim Poston
4:03 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
Mimi, with your ranting and raving about this subject, i expect you are one of the individuals that responded about earlier. Like I said, if you sitting there with no arms and legs without a job, that I can understand. But if you're just sitting there, smoking a doobie and just laying around on your lazy ass, I really don't want any of my hard earned money to go to you.. Let me know if you ever get a job and start paying taxes, I might have to start sitting around and let you help support me! NOT
Mimi
4:10 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
Jim there you go again filling your head with nonsense because you refuse to absorb facts. As a matter of fact I have never drawn any government assistance in my entire life. I am one of those folks that pays the bulk of the taxes so that Warren Buffet can keep all of his earnings. I also give 10% to my church to help needy people and I don't put conditions on where they are to distribute my contributions. I have faith in the church to apply it where needed. I am pretty sure you do a whole lot of sitting around with or without my tax contributions. I am pretty sure you are happy that I supply you with roads to drive on, police to protect you, subsidies for oil and Pharma and of coarse NASCAR so you can watch the car races in the air condition that my tax dollars subsidies, and walk on my sidewalks, and use my electricity and ride on my bus, or fly on my plane. If anyone knows about ranting it certainly would be you.
Mimi
4:12 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
When you get like Jim and you can no longer debate the facts you go on a personal attack hoping that will some how distract you from the argument. He is a Republican through and through.
Jim Poston
6:35 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
What facts do I refuse to absorb Mimi? The fact that some people want something for nothing or the fact that if you're doing nothing wrong, why would you be scared? If you are a tax paying citizen (which I seriously doubt) and you do help me pay for the roads I drive on and my police protection, thanks for the help. But your so-called tax dollars has nothing to do with me watching NASCAR in airconditioning with my electricity, unless you're also paying for my house and land. I don't know about anyone else, but if I would ever be in the need (which, thank god I won't) The very LAST thing I would do is complain about having to take a mandated drug test.. You need to quit your whining..
Geneva Lawrence
4:29 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
I would presume everyone knows that employees do not pay into unemployment benefits. But on the survey, evidently 16% that answered did not know that.
Mimi
5:05 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
What evidence of this new found boogieman does Nimrata has that people using drugs and drawing unemployment are a problem??? Who exactly benefits from this extemism is it the unemployeed workers or the health Industries overcharging for these useless test of innocent people? What madness support a radical agenda that creates more government envolvement in people's lives???
luckyfreeman
5:26 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
why not ? Probably looking for pot in the pot heads blood...Or hard drugs heroin, cocaine, crack, you know the good stuff ... I think its a great idea. a simple blood test must be taken to recieve your unemployment checks..plus a list of places and names of where you applied for a job...The reason you were not hired (because you could not pass adrug test....)
Jim Poston
6:44 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
Jonathan Allen
6:08pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
Geneva: drug dealers take food stamps now???? I'd love to know how that works. I'll tell you Johnathan and I'm surprised you don't know the answer to your own question... Food stamps get traded for things like drugs, cigarettes, alcohol and about anything else that can't be purchased with them. If SC went to a system like the one they have in Florida, with a state debit card type system where the individual has to show identification at the time of use, this would cut a lot or most of that out.
Alvin McEwen
6:59 pm on Friday, September 9, 2011
Sorry folks but this is nonsense. It's a waste of time designed to exploit the resentment of folks who hear horror stories about welfare cheats or may know someone who knows someone who KNOWS someone else who is cheating on welfare. And for the record, they tried this in Florida and found that only two percent of folks are guilty. If you ask me, we need to drug test our elected officials. Remember Thomas Ravenel . . .?
lib
7:24 am on Saturday, September 10, 2011
GOOD FOR HER!!
Jake Gittes
7:56 am on Saturday, September 10, 2011
Since corporations are people, too, why don't we require all of the members of a corporation's management team to pass drug tests as a pre-condition to being able to take tax deductions or to receive any form of corporate subsidies. That's only fair.
Larry Budzowski
9:17 am on Saturday, September 10, 2011
Let see. I am drug tested so I can work. Not illegal right, My tax money goes to help these people right, Then the government is made up of us people. So we are the employers of these people why cant we require all of them to be drug tested. It should be mandatory
luckyfreeman
2:55 pm on Saturday, September 10, 2011
All the time I served in the military I was subject to a mandatory randomly chosen urine test expect to get picked to donate a specimen about once a month but you never knew when you were going to be taken to the latrine to donate your specimen..Usually the CQ SSG would hand you the plastic sample jar and you would fill it for him and hand it right over to him...In 4 years I never came up dirty...This was regular routine practice for the infantry...So whats the poblem flag burning draft dodging pro abortion baby killer.
luckyfreeman
2:59 pm on Saturday, September 10, 2011
Oh Ya By the way we didn't have a choice at all, Do you understand the word mandatory ??? Oh shucks the poor youngster has a problem...Oh what a shame..
luckyfreeman
3:01 pm on Saturday, September 10, 2011
Tell Larry that the drug testing fee will be deducted from your unemployment check ok ! !
luckyfreeman
3:32 pm on Saturday, September 10, 2011
Hey did all of you hear about the Major in the Russian Army over there in Vladstock at the end of the trans siberian highway right there on the Sea Of Japan but alongside of Korea...anyway he found out that his men were being fed dog foo and attacked the men that gave the dog food to his soldiers..He got booted out of the service...But its a tragedy when hat happens to anybodies soldiers..However I think I would have taken a group of about 10 soldiers on a rotateing schedule we would have built a boat or a raft and we would have all gone fishing for out food paddle the rafts out in the sea of Japan and catch some good food maybe even just gne out into the woods a little bit and done some hunting and gotten some real good food...could have dug pits and set traps if ammo was a problem even bows and arrows...I still commend the Russian Major but I wish he had tried to do it the other way...I can only sympathize with him and his men...If you running low on food then its time to go hunting and fishing make good use of your time and your location....While you have the time and the man power..Good luck happy hunting....Go get a good meal you all deserve it...
luckyfreeman
3:38 pm on Saturday, September 10, 2011
You know its getting late in the season over there so if you want to make it through the winter you better get the food supplies in... head out to the woods on patrols and start hunting and send some men out to the sea and start catching some fish...
terry point
6:32 pm on Saturday, September 10, 2011
There are and always will be bad apples in the pot. But what you can't do is punish all the good people for what bad people do. It is called "unemployment" not "drug screening." To single out the unemployed in an effort to reduced paid benefits is unconstitutional and discriminatory. Who do these politicians think they are. If anybody should be drug tested it should the people who are in control of our state and country. They should be tested and it should be mandatory. Politicians should be accountable because we have entrusted them to lookout for our best interest. On the other hand, those receiving unemployment benefits are not accountable to us but rather to themselves. Thus, if they spend their funds on drugs and not on their necessities than they put themselves in bad situations.
It is so sad that most of you have the same mind-set of these politicians, you are selfish, you are judgemental, you believe you are more valuable than someone who has less than you, and you want to control those who are less fortunate. I say don't be so narrow minded, don't prey on those whom you think are less than, because there is fraud, theft, and bad decision making among all classes of people. And if you're so concern about how your tax dollar is spent then you should be trying to make the governor and her crooks accountable. Stop being blind-sided by the small things and look at the BIG picture. The biggest crooks are those at the state capital.
Shawn Drury
7:03 pm on Saturday, September 10, 2011
I'm surprised that commentors haven't responded to the fact that the problem of drug use among those receiving benefits isn't nearly as severe as Gov. Haley believes. She said that 50% of applicants failed a drug test for employment at the Savannah River Site, when in fact that the Department of Energy, which manages the site on a day-to-day basis, said the figure was more like 1%, which is not a small disparity. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/09/nikki-haley-drug-test-exaggeration_n_955900.html
rb
10:24 pm on Saturday, September 10, 2011
She's killing herself to bring jobs to S.C.? How is she killing herself? By taking a recent tax-payer funded jaunt overseas where she stayed in 5-star hotels and ate gourmet meals? Thanks Gov. Haley, but please don't be so tough on yourself, we'll get more jobs here without you doing anything more to kill yourself.
rb
10:26 pm on Saturday, September 10, 2011
Gov. Haley seems to play very loosely with statistics. I guess she likes half of any group to be doing something wrong.
C
10:36 am on Sunday, September 11, 2011
Haley is a LIAR. This is a quote from Jim Guisti, the spokesman for the SAvannah River site:
"Half the people who applied for a job last year or year 2009 did not fail the drug test," Giusti said. "At the peak of hiring under the Recovery Act we had less than 1 percent of those hired test positive."
Lorraine D. Maguire
1:55 pm on Sunday, September 11, 2011
I think Haley does seem to just throw around some facts..that aren't always acurate and then does some backing up! Why say that about SR if those aren't the facts?
kgb
2:29 pm on Friday, September 16, 2011
Yes test for hard drug , remember marijuana is not a drug its an herb, a natural antidepressant
stanley seigler
10:56 pm on Thursday, November 24, 2011
@Nick Foltz re: "Mimi you have no clue how many people abuse these state benefits."
where do i find your stats that show you have a clue...