Hundreds Rally at Statehouse to Nullify Obamacare

Bills in House and Senate look to reject federal legislation.

Approximately 250 South Carolinians marked the start of the 120th General Assembly by taking to the Statehouse steps and calling for the nullification of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act—more commonly known as Obamacare.

Senate Bill S 01012 would make it illegal for Obamacare to be implemented in South Carolina.

Harry Kibler of RINO Hunt, who helped organize the rally, believes the bill has a solid chance of passage. “We have a lot of people who understand the power of the free market and the importance of keeping the government from coming between the doctor and patient relationship,” Kibler told Patch.

Kibler said he does not believe the government should be taking on the role of insurer. “The patient has a lot of options when he can deal directly with the doctor. If they don’t like how their doctor or the insurance or dealing with them they have the option of going somewhere else.”

The aspects of Obamacare that are popular—such as keeping children on parents’ insurance until the age of 26 and not being excluded for pre-existing conditions—could be handled privately, according to Kibler. “People with serious illnesses should be given assistance through a charitable organization like a church or a community hospital. The fact that someone else gets sick should not affect my insurance rates. The government is not a charity.”

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Tom Utley January 08, 2013 at 06:13 PM
Alright, glad this is picking up steam! Nullification has worked as recently as 2012 when Colorado nullified federal laws against Marijuana. I hope we Nullify a lot more laws than just Obamacare!
Ken January 08, 2013 at 08:24 PM
Why is it that the morons of this state are against everyone having affordable health insurance?
Nan Hahn January 08, 2013 at 09:27 PM
Because they're morons, silly! And as for "Churches or charitable organizations" covering the poor - where does he get the idea that they're going to suddenly step and do it, since they haven't been doing a very complete job of it in all of the decades leading up to the passage of "Obamacare"!!!!
Tom Utley January 08, 2013 at 10:21 PM
I dunno, but unfortunately we do have a lot of people that support Obamacare, and it's already making healthcare extremely expensive!
Robert Kelly January 09, 2013 at 03:25 AM
The entire last paragraph...especially "The fact that someone else gets sick should not affect my insurance rates. " is so ignorant of reality I am amazed the editors let it go through. And this is not a government insurance program! Health insurance is through private companies..government is not coming between you and your doctor! Churches/charities do not cover the poor. They may cover specific members of their community/church, but they simply do not cover the general public. And that is not their function normally. Insurance is "shared risk". If more people are sick, and insurance companies have to spend more money, rates go up. The biggest complaint from the liberal political wing was related to this specific issue. Insurance companies are a business, entitled to turn a profit. If the Affordable Care Act had expanded Medicare as an option for everyone, the profit part of the cost would have been eliminated, and unlimitedly to overall cost would have been less. Medicare already has private contractors (statisticians) reviewing all the billing data for the purpose of identifying fraud or unusual costs. The ACA provides an opportunity for everyone to have coverage that cannot be arbitrarily denied or canceled. What is the problem? I suspect the real problem with the ACA is exemplified by the picture of the protestor with the sign "No Obama Anything". Certain people do not like the president on a very personal level; that is really the issue.
Shawn Drury January 09, 2013 at 04:16 AM
Robert, That's what he said. Of course I'll let it go through. -SD
Robert Kelly January 09, 2013 at 11:20 AM
Was this an op-Ed piece or a news story? Doesn't the reporter have an obligation to point out fallacies in the logic or facts when reporting? I don't dispute the accuracy of the quote, but if the speaker is simply wrong, doesn't that call for some explanation by the reporter?
Shawn Drury January 09, 2013 at 02:01 PM
Robert, If Mr. Kibler were an elected official the obligation to point out an opposing view would be higher. But he's a citizen at a political rally, it's assumed what he's saying is his opinion. Just like when someone posts in a comments section or on a message board. Thanks for raising the issue.
reg January 09, 2013 at 04:49 PM
Too many folks don't realize that we have been paying the medical bills of uninsured patients for decades, and directly through our own health insurance -- over $700 of your annual insurance payments go for that, in fact. Insurance companies have been raising their rates so much that they doubled in less than a decade --- but they want to blame "Obamacare" for what insurance companies are doing. Those folks are just suckers, doing the dirty work for the same folks who rob them. As for claims of charity help when folks need help? DREAM ON. I knew a guy whose insurance dropped him after he was diagnosed with an arterial disorder. His doctor told him his life was at immediate risk, then refused to see him again until he had insurance. He went to a charity medical center, where he was told he had 90 days to live -- he was told he would hemorrhage, then die in seconds. That charity facility then refused to perform the surgery, telling him to come back when he had insurance. He asked why he was refused, and he was told that charity facilities only perform surgeries of immediate need. Because his was not immediate, they wouldn't do it. A broken bone, heart attack at the moment, current disease --- stuff like that, sure. Only if he was hemorrhaging right there at the moment could they help him, he was told -- and even then it would do no good, because the hemorrhage would claim his life in less than a minute. I miss that guy. He was 26.
Robert Kelly January 09, 2013 at 05:45 PM
With all due respect, it is not like a message in the comments section. We know the commenters are opinionated and are not edited. We expect professional judgement and editing in a news story. If that is not the case, then please identify it up front as a a blog.
Sheri Irwin January 10, 2013 at 12:48 AM
Obamacare does not make medical care more affordable. It is designed to cause our premiums to skyrocket so companies will drop our insurance ad we get herded onto gov't "care". Doctors can no longer open hospitals. About 40 were in the planning stages when Ocare passed. They had to be scrapped. Hospitals cannot expand without the federal gov't's permission. In Obamacare hospitals cannot re-admit you within a 30 day period or they will be fined. I met a woman recently who found her mother on the floor. She assumed she had fallen and broke her hip. She took her to the hospital and they said she hadn't. So, she took her home and realized her mother was having a stroke. She rushed her back and the hospital refused to re-admit her. Fortunately she was able to get her to another hospital in time. A few months back a conference was held in DC for neurologists regarding Obamacare...they were told that if a patient came in that was bleeding out on the brain/stroke and they were over 70, they were NOT to do anything but make them comfortable. Doctors will be fined FIVE FIGURES if they don't do what they are told under Obamacare (even if it means letting the patient die). The second time? They are going to be thrown in jail! Over half the doctors say they are going to quit. Democrat representative Dingell said, after the bill passed, "It will take us a few years to get all the laws in place IN ORDER TO CONTROL THE PEOPLE". www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HnkxIh62dQ
Sheri Irwin January 10, 2013 at 12:56 AM
Robert, are you aware that Medicare DENIES patients at a much higher rate than private insurance companies? Also, fraud is very high under Medicare. The probem? The gov't is going to decide if you get medical or not. Who lives and who dies. Watch Dr. Janda tell what is going to happen. www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HnkxIh62dQ
Sheri Irwin January 10, 2013 at 01:12 AM
Insurance companies can longer drop you if you get sick. A law was passed about 20 or 25 years ago forbidding them from doing so. That is the proper role of gov't...protecting life and property...not deciding who lives and who dies. You do know that under Obamacare illegals and muslims do not have to buy insurance? Obama keeps giving illegal executive orders giving illegals amnesty. He gave a million a backdoor amnesty a week or two ago. I do wish Congress would overturn his illegal executive orders. Don't you think that will be costly to Americans? How does forcing people to buy insurance who can't afford it help them? If the don't buy it they will be fined. How does that help them? Check out the video I posted above of Dr. Janda and Obamacare. It is alarming.
Sheri Irwin January 10, 2013 at 01:35 AM
I was wrong. It's not a five figure fine....it's a six figure fine!


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