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Video: Haley, SC to Sue Feds Over Voter ID

Gov. Nikki Haley says South Carolina has the right to uphold the integrity of its voting system

S.C. Attorney General Alan Wilson on Tuesday said the state will file suit against the U.S. Department of Justice, which last month rejected the state's new Voter ID law requiring all voters to show a valid state-approved photo ID in order to cast a ballot.

Wilson said his office planned to file suit within the next 10 days in the U.S. District Court of the District of Columbia, .


"Our intent is to ensure … that no voter is suppressed in their right to vote and that the integrity of the electoral process is protected," said Wilson, who appeared with S.C. Gov. Nikki Haley, state House Speaker Bobby Harrell, state Sen. Kevin Bright, and several state lawmakers at a noon press conference at the Statehouse.

It was a fear of , passed last May, in the first place. 

Last month, Justice’s Civil Rights Division said the state's statute is discriminatory because its registered minority voters are nearly 20 percent more likely than whites to lack a state-issued photo ID. 

Under the 1965 Voting Rights Act, South Carolina is one of a number of states that are required to receive federal "pre-clearance" on voting changes to ensure that they don’t hurt minorities’ political power. That mandate is a vestige of the state's Jim Crow era, and earlier, when grandfather clauses, poll taxes, and literacy tests were used to suppress minority voting.

"The absolute number of minority citizens whose exercise of the franchise could be adversely affected by the proposed requirements runs into the tens of thousands," Assistant Attorney General Thomas E. Perez said in a letter to South Carolina officials following DOJ's ruling in December.

Presently, voters need only show their driver's license or voter registration card to vote.

"Our citizens want us to exercise our constitutional right to secure our state’s election process from fraud and abuse with Voter ID," Harrell said. "Given all the facts, it is clear how unjust President Obama’s Department of Justice has been to our state and why state lawmakers are supporting the appeal of the rejection."

Wilson said the new law would actually ensure that all voters are enfranchised and that each voter's ballot would count. Of the estimated 239,233 registered voters with no appropriate photo ID, Wilson argued that 37,000 of those people are deceased, 91,000 no longer live in the state, and another 20,000 are registered, but go by different names.

"If you vote, and someone else votes fraudulently, they’ve suppressed your vote," said Bright. "It’s exactly the opposite of what the Obama administration has accused us of."

Pressed, however, to cite a specific instance where the lack of a state-approved photo ID has led to voter fraud, Haley was unable to do so.

Haley reiterated that the state has taken pains to help those without proper ID get one, citing a program last year that provided rides for people to their local Division of Motor Vehicles office. Haley said that "less than 30" took advantage of the offer statewide.

Wilson noted that the U.S. Supreme Court has already ruled in favor of a similar Georgia law, and added that the South Carolina law even goes a step farther, allowing voters with no ID to sign an affidavit affirming their identity.

Haley, Wilson, Harrell, and Bright all argued that photo IDs are required for a wide array of things, from signing up for Medicaid, to purchasing certain over-the-counter or prescription drugs, to boarding airplanes.

Making a photo ID a requirement of voting, they argued, should be no different.

"The will of the people was that we want to protect the integrity of the voting process," Haley said. "And if you have to show a picture ID to buy Sudafed, if you have to show a picture ID to get on a plane -- you should have to show an ID to do that one thing that is so important to us, which is that right to vote.

"The House passed it, the Senate passed it, and I signed it," she added. "What we saw was the continued war on South Carolina that continues  to happen -- like Boeing, like illegal immigration, and now we're seeing it with Voter ID. This has got to stop, and you will see us fight -- and you will see us fight hard."

Black state Rep. Todd Rutherford, of Columbia, called Haley's argument ludicrous. He stormed the podium after the press conference and said that voting is a fundamental Constitutional right -- buying Sudafed is not. And equating the two is preposterous, he said, as is the Haley Administration's whole rationale behind Voter ID.

"Can anyone show me in the Constitution where it says you have the right to buy prescription narcotics?" he railed. "At least one person will be affected by this law. And at a minimum, according to their numbers, 30,000 who do not have IDs in South Carolina will not be allowed to vote. They have done nothing to address that.

"They tell people they will give them rides. That is disingenuous at best," Rutherford added. "Nothing they have said today addresses what the true issue is … all they have done is create a problem that there was not before."

Cold War Vet January 12, 2012 at 04:22 pm
Here's the link: http://www.live5news.com/story/16499219/dmv-leader-records-show-900-dead-may-have-voted
SDR January 12, 2012 at 04:28 pm
In SC, one must have a photo ID to register to vote.
In SC, one must have a photo ID to apply for state funded aid.
Tom Gallagher January 12, 2012 at 04:36 pm
It is not your Constutional right to do any of the afforementioned - Voting is - plain and simple. This is a GOPTEA ploy to wipeout alot of votes that will more than likely not be for their insurectionest butts. The voter fraud LIE is just that, A LIE. there have been seven cases of "voter fraud" in SC in the last 20 years - Imagine that, SEVEN in TWENTY and they were not people trying to use fradulent devices or fake ID's - They were for individual groups attempting to sign up voters for registration while telling them to BE registered they needed to vote for a certain candidate. So if Trikki Nikki and co. want to lie and cheat (as per her normal M.O.) and waste millions of OUR tax paying dollars to fight this, rather than use that money for education,roads,health and human resources, etc. I think the GOPTEA voting FOOLS in this state better wake up. Our state is being stolen, taxed, and new lawed out from under us by a woman that has no right to be in the position she is in.
Gerald Eu January 12, 2012 at 04:44 pm
SDR. a person does not need a photo ID to register to vote in SC
reg January 12, 2012 at 04:48 pm
The Dems are complaining, Gretchen, because it's the Dems who protect our freedoms. It's the GOTEA/Rethuglican party that keeps trying to *take away* our freedoms. Still can't believe anyone with IQ higher than that of a doorknob would believe those GOTEA goons anymore. They always say one thing, then do the exact opposite.
reg January 12, 2012 at 04:52 pm
The DMV doesn't have any records of anyone who voted - it's the *Department of Motor Vehicles*, for pete's sake. It only has record of driver's licenses.
Why don't you ask the State Election Commission, which says they have no record of any fraudulent voting in the state? http://www2.scnow.com/news/2011/oct/28/south-carolina-election-commission-has-no-confirme-ar-2622257/
Cold War Vet January 12, 2012 at 04:58 pm
On Dec 23rd, Assistant AG Thomas E. Perez sent a letter ordering SC to stop enforcing its photo ID law. [PEREZ HEADS THE CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION THAT BOOTED CHARGES AGAINST THE NEW BLACK PANTHERS PARTY FOR INTIMIDATING VOTERS IN PHILADELPHIA IN 2008]. Perez alleges SC's law would disenfranchise thousands of minority voters. SC AG Alan Wilson rejected Perez’s math and explained on Fox News why the law is necessary. The state DMV audited a state Election Commission report that said 239,333 people were registered to vote but had no photo ID. The DMV found that 37,000 were deceased, more than 90,000 had moved to other states, and others had names not matched to IDs. That left only 27,000 people registered without a photo ID but who could vote by signing an affidavit as to their identity. VIDEO: NH POLL WORKERS SHOWN HANDING OUT BALLOTS IN DEAD PEOPLES’ NAMES http://congressmantomtancredo.com/category/voter-fraud/. "What's the problem with South Carolina's voter ID law?" http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/01/whats_the_problem_with_south_carolinas_voter_id_law.html.
Steve Jones January 12, 2012 at 05:34 pm
Based on one theme that seems common to many comments it appears we could/should eliminate a large portion of our local, state, and federal governments. That is "if it is not reported/you dont see it, then it must not be". But, are the same persons advocating removal of other money consuming exercises for this "it is not a problem" reason?
Gretchen January 12, 2012 at 05:36 pm
REG .... DMV or not ... the statement is simply IGNORANT. People like that should not be in CHARGE of ANYTHING.
stanley seigler January 12, 2012 at 05:42 pm
@G@Gretchen: "...an article about how 900 DEAD PEOPLE had voted recently.
COMMENT "research has revealed evidence that over 900 deceased people "APPEAR" to have 'voted' in recent elections in South Carolina, said Wilson...I have asked SLED Chief Keel to review Director Shwedo's research." NOT voted. appears to have. being investigated. Assume state [SC] election commission DID investigate and said, "there are no known cases of voter fraud in recent history..." if SC election commission didn't find fraud and there indeed is the commission should be fired. can someone explain what the procedure "dead people" (fraudulent voters) used... another "APPEARS": "Apparently" someone already voted in his name when he showed up. After talking to headquaters he was allowed to submit a "second" vote in his name. It may just be a mistake at the pricinct, who may have checked a wrong voter earlyer further, the mistake or apparent fraud was caught without a voter ID...just a matter of checking the registration roles... further the real problem is still not addressed...eg; "90 per cent of tonight’s votes in the GOP New Hampshire primary will be counted by notoriously suspect Diebold electronic voting machines, which during the Democratic primary back in 2008 produced a result that completely defied both pre-primary and exit polls."
Cold War Vet January 12, 2012 at 05:51 pm
"When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident; that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness." - Thomas Jefferson
Steve Jones January 12, 2012 at 06:44 pm
The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.
Thomas Jefferson
stanley seigler January 12, 2012 at 08:32 pm
@PATCH: "...Of the estimated 239,233 registered voters with no appropriate photo ID, Wilson argued that 37,000 of those people are deceased, 91,000 no longer live in the state, and another 20,000 are registered, but go by different names."
COMMENT this proof voterID at polling place not needed...assume computer check/search found: "239,233 registered voters with no appropriate photo ID, 37,000 deceased, 91,000 no longer live in the state; 20,000 are registered, but go by different names." then these names should be (and hopefully ARE) REMOVED from the registered voters rolls...and still leaves 91,000 to be disenfranchised by the voterID law...I/2 of which could throw an election...ie; "...numbers show the massive racial divide - 94% of African Americans approve of the job he's (BO's) doing but only 24% of whites do. If he had even a 30% approval rating with white voters he'd be in pretty decent standing in the state..." http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2011/06/obama-close-in-south-carolina-except.html @reg: The DMV doesn't have any records of anyone who voted... but it is another source that can be used to check addresses, etc. would still like to know the procedure fraudulent voters use...i cant figure how i could vote twice...it would have to some massive conspiracy that would be easily detected...eg; assume 900 dead folks voted...who organized this fraud (the koch bros?)...the fraud is that inflicted by the koch bros and their sheep on possible BO voters.
Mimi January 13, 2012 at 10:32 am
Gretchen is it that you can't read or you lack the intelligence to comprehend??? The only thing the paper is saying is that these people are REGISTERED to vote NO WHERE DOES IT SAY THEY VOTED. You people are so involved in your dellusions you lack the ability to absorb facts. I would be questioning why the ELECTION COMMISSION has kept these people on the roles.
Mimi January 13, 2012 at 10:46 am
Cold War are you still trying to spin that NEW Black Panther thing???? IT WAS 3 PEOPLE. The only movement you should be worried about is the mushroom tea drinking movement, those people will do anything to get their nonsense heard. The more you comment the more you sound dellusional. I am starting to think that you are reallly Jessie Venture. Boooogie men all around. You must stay up all night with you finger on the trigger waiting for those scary people coming for you. SEEK HELP SOON
Cold War Vet January 13, 2012 at 12:30 pm
@Mimi: Why aren't Democrats speaking out against the Solyndra Campaign slush fund scandal? Seems the Democratic Party is not “The protectors of the people in America” as Nancy Pelosi likes to say? Stealing half a billion taxpayer dollars to give to a proven failing Solar panel company is supposed to be protecting the people? Where's the outrage from Democrats? Hint: There is none. How about the Democrats silence about the Fast and Furious government gun-running fiasco? Where is the outrage from Democrats in Congress demanding justice for this case of proven Government malfeasance? Hint: There is none. Where's the demands of the Democratic voters, political operatives and DNC power-brokers for people to be held accountable for these obvious travesties of injustice against the American people today? Hint: There is none. When it comes to corruption, big government abuse of our Constitution, and over-all illegal activity stemming from the Solyndra pay for play fraud, and the Fast and Furious government assault weapons to drug cartels fiasco, it appears the Democratic Party is deaf, dumb and blind. Apparently, you and their supporters that chant “Four more years” condone government abuse. Obama's appointees are responsible for criminal injustices to the American people. The Democratic campaign coffers is another failed green energy scam, yet not one Democrat in Congress has the honesty or integrity to condemn these actions. Democrats are really deaf, dumb and blind.
Cold War Vet January 13, 2012 at 12:36 pm
@Mimi: Read "How to Tell a Democrat from a Republican" by Leon Felkins at http://www.americanpolitics.com/030499dictionary.html. Mr. Felkins talks about the differences Republican and Democrat approaches on various issues. Even the Bible teaches us about the blind leading the blind -- "Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. Leave them; they are blind guides [of the blind]. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit." (Matthew 15:13-14). -- "Can a blind man lead a blind man? Will they not both fall into a pit? A student is not above his teacher, but everyone who is fully trained will be like his teacher." (Luke 6:39-40).
Mimi January 13, 2012 at 01:07 pm
Hey Cold War why didn't the Republicans speak out about solyndra when Bushy Boy was handing out loan to them??? Hey Cold War why aren't Republicans speaking out about the biggest socialist program the country has THE MILLITARY. Hey Cold War why aren't the Republicans speaking out about the billions of dollars being squandered in the 2 made up wars we are paying for???? Why aren't the Republicans speaking out about the cost to the tax payers for corporate welfare???
Cold War Vet January 13, 2012 at 01:09 pm
Read "Blind Obedience to the State: The Sheep Are Now Ready for Slaughter!" by Gary D. Barnett at: http://lewrockwell.com/barnett/barnett42.1.html.
Mimi January 13, 2012 at 01:11 pm
Hey Cold War read the bible instead of someone else interpetation that for every one you can list I can list a different interpertation. As long as you realize you happen to be the blind man following the blind then I really don't care what you read.
Mimi January 13, 2012 at 01:15 pm
Cold War here some informationof ACTUALLY legistration that will make it very CLEAR what the difference is between the Republicans and Democrats.
http://static.newrules.org/voice2004/101304charts.html
Cold War Vet January 13, 2012 at 02:12 pm
Based on your comments, you believe that the government has money of its own. You believe government health care is less expensive. You believe George W. Bush is responsible for all that is wrong in government. You see nothing wrong with Wilson, Roosevelt, LBJ, Carter, or Clinton. You believe Bush lied and Clinton didn't. You believe Obama tells the truth. You believe Al Gore invented the internet. You believe hanging chads should count. Keep bowing to your messiah and remember to say your prayer -- Our gubmint Mack-Daddy, hallowed be Thy name, please forgive my trespass against Thee. O, Holiest of Holies named Obama, forgive this poor, benighted sinner, I know not what I say about Your Holiness. forgive me, pardon me, grant me atonement for my lack of faith in Your works on the public dime, Your Holy Ascensions to multiple golf-courses, and Your many Junkets to raise money from Your disciples, all at $35,000 a plate. Let not Your ATF, FBI, and IRS not hound or audit me to the poor-house, for I am with You.....Yea, thugh I blaspheme against You this day, I will be with You, always. I beseech the Saints, Saint Solyndra, Saint Soros, Saint Reverend Wright, Saint Bill Ayres, and Saint Light-Squared, to protect me and intercede with the Holiest of Holies, the Obama, on my behalf! ‏آمين‏ ; ‏بمعنى اللهم استجب ويقال عند الدعاء بالخير‏!
JimW January 13, 2012 at 03:03 pm
@Cold War Vet
Thank you for your service and your insights on this thread!
JimW January 13, 2012 at 03:41 pm
Here’s my question to those of you that oppose this new law. Would you be willing to support it if it included all necessary aid to help any citizen that needed a photo ID to get one?
Personally, I have absolutely no objection with helping our citizens obtain proper state ID. I think this would be a great thing, since having a valid state issued photo ID could also potentially help them when seeking employment, conducting business or banking transactions, etc. It seems to me this would be a win-win solution for people on both sides of this debate. Also, there would be the positive side effect of helping people that are at the center of the debate.
stanley seigler January 13, 2012 at 04:21 pm
@Cold War Vet (CWV)
to quote huntsman re romney's charge huntsman's service to our country, as ambassador to china was a bad thing, Quote: "mitt, it's remarks like that that divide our country." (something close) ditto CWV's not too clever, plagiarized, comments (prayer) here...they (it) adds nothing to the understanding of the need for voterID laws...in fact detract, in my opine.
Cold War Vet January 13, 2012 at 04:37 pm
@Stanley et al: Here's the bottom line. In January 2008, DHS issued a final rule to establish minimum standards for state-issued driver’s licenses and identification cards in accordance with the REAL ID Act of 2005. The regulations set standards for states to meet the requirements of the REAL ID Act, including: information and security features that must be incorporated into each card; proof of identity and lawful status of an applicant; verification of the source documents provided by an applicant; and security standards for the offices that issue licenses and identification cards. Pursuant to the DHS REAL ID regulation, States were to be in full compliance with the REAL ID Act of 2005 by May 11, 2011. A final rule issued March 7, 2011 changes that date to Jan 15, 2013. This change gives States the time necessary to ensure that driver's licenses and identification cards issued by States meet the security requirements of the REAL ID Act. SC has no choice in the matter. SC must comply with federal requirements, but, because of the problems I stated earlier, SC must seek authority through the DOJ to amend it's laws. The DOJ isn't allowing SC to conform to federal laws. The minimum standards are available for your review at http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2011/2011-5002.htm.
Cold War Vet January 13, 2012 at 04:39 pm
How much more fact do you need? Public Law 109-13, "Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Tsunami Relief, 2005'', TITLE II--IMPROVED SECURITY FOR DRIVERS' LICENSES AND PERSONAL IDENTIFICATION CARDS SEC. 201. <<NOTE: 49 USC 30301 note.>> DEFINITIONS. In this title, the following definitions apply: [[Page 119 STAT. 312]] (1) Driver's license.--The term ``driver's license'' means a motor vehicle operator's license, as defined in section 30301 of title 49, United States Code. (2) Identification card.--The term ``identification card'' means a personal identification card, as defined in section 1028(d) of title 18, United States Code, issued by a State. (3) Official purpose.--The term ``official purpose'' includes but is not limited to accessing Federal facilities, boarding federally regulated commercial aircraft, entering nuclear power plants, and any other purposes that the Secretary shall determine. (4) Secretary.--The term ``Secretary'' means the Secretary of Homeland Security. (5) State.--The term ``State'' means a State of the United States, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa, the Northern Mariana Islands, the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands, and any other territory or possession of the United States. (http://epic.org/privacy/id_cards/real_id_act.pdf)
Anne Hansen January 14, 2012 at 12:23 am
There's no adverse affect on anyone to need an ID to vote. That's like saying that all the people they claim it will hurt are mentally retarted!
Geneva Lawrence January 14, 2012 at 03:42 am
Just watched the NH video. Everyone commenting here needs to watch it.
Gerald Eu January 14, 2012 at 01:03 pm
Geneva watched the video, and waiting for the next video of the perpetrators being arrested for voter fraud

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